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Sep 27 2006, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(lcpsimongoh007_tri @ Sep 27 2006, 01:19 AM) [snapback]38421[/snapback] my 2cents worth of knowledge.only in some competition like olympic can only take alittle insignificant for performance boost but in other races pp mite take more.usually training pp dun take tt much cos with the increase in tolerance level the higher amount of caffeine u need.thus people will only take during race day n will c the true effect.i read some article online,too strong espresso brew b4 the race is beneficial n enhance ur performance alot.pp might argue tt caffeine cause dehydration but i feel that there are so many water point along the way so its ok......jus drink more water for the lost n u can run faster A medical note of caution. It is not advisable to down two cups of espresso before a race if u have no prior experience doing so during training. Espresso is concentrated caffeine and would have the side effects of palpitations, hand tremors, anxiety attacks, shortness of breath. Can you imagine what any of these side effects would do to your performance for the race or even endangering your heart rhythm? You are doing so at your own peril. Do not be deceived by the seemingly inocuous caffeine as different people have different levels of susceptibility to its side effect and the concentration of two espresso is not an insignificant amount. At the end of the day, what is the purpose of participating in the race. If it is just to complete, caffeine could prove to be counter productive as I've explained in my earlier posting. If it is to better a previous timing, isn't this a form of chemical (albeit legal) enhancement and not a true reflection of your body's capability and training? |
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Sep 27 2006, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(Sotong @ Sep 26 2006, 05:25 PM) [snapback]38404[/snapback] Cool!! Thanks for the advice and explanation!! Interesting read.... but nowadays very skeptical about all these reports leh..... In the past... research shows that Green Tea helps to prevent cancer..... Recently, new research shows that Green Tea only helps to reduce risk of stroke but not cancer... Machiam like properties of Green Tea is also mutating.... siow liow... dunno what to believe? talking abt this article? it say green tea help reduce death in cardiovascular disease but not in cancer....no mention abt risk reduction leh... anyway, i think a lot of previous studies are on green tea polyphenol (an extract of green tea which is a potent antioxidant)...study on green tea is more difficult...'cos different ppl drink different green tea, brew differently...or some ppl like me brew then can drink the whole day...i'm sure a lot of the antioxidant activity is gone by the time it reach our body Not too mention if u look at the actual article...there r so many variation in other characteristics like exercise, other things that the population drink or eat...blah blah blah... so if u r taking green tea extract supplement...good for u...if drinking green tea...err...no harm rite...it taste nice anyway -------------------- |
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Sep 27 2006, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(adrwee @ Sep 27 2006, 09:07 AM) [snapback]38427[/snapback] A medical note of caution. It is not advisable to down two cups of espresso before a race if u have no prior experience doing so during training. Espresso is concentrated caffeine and would have the side effects of palpitations, hand tremors, anxiety attacks, shortness of breath. Can you imagine what any of these side effects would do to your performance for the race or even endangering your heart rhythm? You are doing so at your own peril. Do not be deceived by the seemingly inocuous caffeine as different people have different levels of susceptibility to its side effect and the concentration of two espresso is not an insignificant amount. At the end of the day, what is the purpose of participating in the race. If it is just to complete, caffeine could prove to be counter productive as I've explained in my earlier posting. If it is to better a previous timing, isn't this a form of chemical (albeit legal) enhancement and not a true reflection of your body's capability and training? yupyup i agree on it thanks alot.i tink i'll not get those powergel with such caffeine as well...might be detrimental as well.i really dunno strong caffeine has such a tremendous effect on the body.scary le.... |
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Nov 3 2006, 01:44 AM
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I think you should try it before jumping to concussions...
If it was really really really BAAD... then do you think multi million dollar compnies like POWER GEL would want to take a risk and put them in their products?? But must admit that HAMMER GEL sucks... I tried the PRO4 Caps.. and I think they work. |
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Nov 3 2006, 09:59 AM
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Caffine is a stimulant. Too much and it act like steriod. You can fail a drug test if your caffine level is too high, but not sure that is how many cups of espresso. And like all steriod, it has its side effect.
But if you compare the concentration of caffine in power gel with that of espresso, it is rather low. It is no where near the concentration of 2 espresso mentioned. Therefore, you can continue to use power gel with caffine in it. It is fine when you use things in moderation. I personally find power gel with caffine useful for my morning runs as it help to wake me up. |
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Nov 4 2006, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(Yanglyn @ Nov 3 2006, 09:59 AM) [snapback]41341[/snapback] Caffine is a stimulant. Too much and it act like steriod. You can fail a drug test if your caffine level is too high, but not sure that is how many cups of espresso. . restricted under IOC & WADA guidelines. urine levels >12ug = FAIL |
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Feb 4 2007, 11:08 PM
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Oct 20 2008, 01:42 PM
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I take 200mg of caffeine tabs b4 my morning 10km runs.
Without breakfast with lots of water. Running on a fasted state burn fats fast!!! Caffeine helps. But caffeine draws calcium from your bones, so must drink more skinny milk. -------------------- I'm not OK... You're OK.
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Oct 20 2008, 01:58 PM
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I take 200mg of caffeine tabs b4 my morning 10km runs. Without breakfast with lots of water. Running on a fasted state burns fats fast!!! Caffeine helps. But caffeine draws calcium from your bones, so must drink more skinny milk. Love this part: burn fat fast. But I think my stomach will give way if i take that much caffeine. lol.. |
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Oct 20 2008, 02:13 PM
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Caffeine is considered a legal drug.
I remember taking one of those, because coffee failed me and my collegemates as we try to cram through exams. It did work... but i was awake for 2 days or wassit three. So taking caffeine capsules to make it work depends on how one's body work with it. Caffeine keeps you awake, but do you actually remember stuff? No... lack of sleep = memory dwindling. Doesn't really helps you keep focus too. So if you take those, and keep having to do bike loops over and over again, please take some form of tape to remember how many loops you went or need to go. |
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Oct 20 2008, 02:41 PM
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Caffeine is considered a legal drug... Nicotine also a legal drug...Makes you look like a train when you smoke while cycling / running! -------------------- Cheers,
Junior Download the e-Book @ iTunes soon! THE NEW DADDY'S TRIATHLON GUIDE: Training for an Ironman Race In 2 Months "Have a baby...and still shave an hour off your PB!" |
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Oct 21 2008, 01:42 AM
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err. sorry, but running on a fasted state just makes you burn out faster.
-------------------- Success if not final; failure is not fatal. It is the courage to go on that counts.
This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill, Fifteen percent concentrated power of will. Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain, And a hundred percent reason to remember the name. |
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Oct 22 2008, 09:55 AM
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Caffeine tablets .... Is there no joy in a good cuppa??
Personal experience from laying off coffee/tea for 1-2weeks (or reducing to 3 cups/week) and then downing 1 strong cup for breakfast before race, is that its totally subjective and not even guaranteed. I feel the alertness sometimes, sometimes I don't. Likely, other factors affect the effects of caffeine intake to make this so (ie. amount of sleep; excitement; accumulated fatigue, etc). Never had problems with stomach upset after coffee. This is quite individual. |
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Dec 20 2009, 02:54 AM
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Don't take caffeine. Caffeine is totally useless. You should consider viagra, marijuana, pot, grass, nicotine, whisky or gin. hahaha,.... grass is a super sedative.trust me,.. you'll sleep like a baby. and irish whisky is a great tonic for cold symptoms for me. -------------------- one can never consent to creep , when one feels the compulsion to soar
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Feb 15 2010, 10:20 PM
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I think the use of caffine is more appropriate during the bike & run during a tri. I suppose the swim keeps the person awake bcos a sip of sea water will surely pry open the sleepy eyes.
During the bike, its the distance & heat that will kill the person ability to focus so daydreaming or taking your eyes off the road may cause accidents. One way for caffine intake for me is a bottle of TEA-SI ICE & a bottle of Gatorade on my bike. During my ride to desaru, i put a bottle of Coffee with ICE with another bottle of Gatorade. It works for me with no stomach upset. But i do not take coffee or tea usually. For run, i don't think there is any race anyone need caffine intake other than the Sundown 42km or 84km that spans from 12am-5am+ or 8pm-8am+. Prob during a Ironman, some caffine will help in the run as the body is already working for 7hrs++ from 7am & the runs starts from 4/5pm till 9/10pm. For non-pro, the caffine should not be a issue with the authority or rules & regulation. Caffine will not help to win a race. -------------------- Never give in, never give up.
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